427 Andrew Ginsburg of Southport, CT Loving Father of Three, Author, Trainer & Stand-Up Comedian

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Andrew Ginsberg talks with David Hirsch about life, fatherhood

David Hirsch: What colors define your life right now? And how have they changed over time?

Andrew Ginsberg: blue with sunshine when I was a child, dark gray with maybe a tornado cloud and horrible, winds. But in my past, eight years as a dad, just bluer and bluer skies with a brighter and brighter sun. And I always say to my kids, daddy’s the luckiest man in the world. And I believe that. I tell them that every day when I leave the house, daddy’s the luckiest man in the world.

David Hirsch: That’s our guest this week, Andrew Ginsberg. A comedian, an author, a bodybuilder, and father of three, he’s been called a smash up of Jerry Seinfeld and Superman. Andrew joined David Hirsch for a discussion on life, fatherhood, and his book, Pumping how to Build Muscle and have the Last Laugh. It’s a funny, entertaining conversation that we’ll hear on this Special Fathers Network Dad to Dad Podcast. Dad to the dad.

Andrew Ginsberg: You’re not on your own. We walk this road together, heart and home.

David Hirsch: Now say hello to the founder of the Special Fathers Network and host of the Dad to Dad Podcast, David Hirsch.

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David Hirsch: Now, let’s listen in to this conversation between Andrew Ginsbergand David Hirsch.

Andrew Ginsbergis a standup comedian and father of three young children

David Hirsch: I’m thrilled to be talking today with Andrew Ginsbergof Southport, Connecticut, who’s a standup comedian, author of three books, and perhaps most importantly, father of three young children. Andrew, thank you for taking the time to do a podcast interview for the Special Fathers Network.

Andrew Ginsberg: Oh, thank you so much for having me on. I’m really excited to be here.

David Hirsch: You and your wife, Rachel Gerber have been married for 10 years. And the proud parents of three young children, Ben, 8, Leo, 6, and Remy, 4. Let’s start with some background. Where did you grow up? Tell me something about your birth family.

Andrew Ginsberg: I grew up in, Lawrence, New York, which is in Long Island. I grew up in a religious Jewish home. My father was a surgeon and my mom was home with us. And, they were very, very, very strict parents. I had a very rigid, disciplinarian home.

David Hirsch: Did you say you had siblings when you’re growing up?

Andrew Ginsberg: I did. I have two sisters. I have an older sister, younger sister. I’m the middle. Typical middle child. Pretty crazy. And I.

David Hirsch: I love it. So, out of curiosity, what did your dad do for a living?

Andrew Ginsberg: My dad was a surgeon, a general surgeon. So he did everything from colon surgery. He did a lot of stomach, breast cancer. He operated, probably 3,000 operations over 30 years. So he used to come home with cookies from patients, with cards that said, thank you for saving my life.

David Hirsch: Oh, my God.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, this was a weekly occurrence, so there was definitely a lot of meaning in his work. It was pretty special.

David Hirsch: Is your dad still alive?

Andrew Ginsberg: He’s not. He passed in 2023.

David Hirsch: Sorry to hear that.

Andrew Ginsberg: Thank you. Thank you.

David Hirsch: Did I remember that he had, like, a jogging accident or something?

Andrew Ginsberg: He did, that’s exactly right. 2008, he ran a little too far on a little too hot of a day. he was a health nut, runner, tennis player, ate broccoli. You know, he fell and he hit his head and suffered a traumatic brain injury, which left him with no short term memory and very little mobility. So he lost his brain that was big, and his fitness that was strong together in one shot. And he lived like that for another 15 years, sadly, in various assisted livings. So he really had a tragic end to, a very powerful career.

David Hirsch: Yeah, well, very sorry to hear that. I can only imagine, you know, with somebody who’s sort of like a type A or double A personality. And I don’t mean that negatively, but I’m just saying very accomplished to, you know, not be able to do mentally, physically, the things that, you know, you just sort of take for granted. And for 15 years. That’s a long time on the back end of your life.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, yeah, it was really. Yeah, it was a really horrible way to spend what are supposed to be the golden years.

David Hirsch: Yeah, I can

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David Hirsch: only imagine the impact that had on your mom as well.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, really hard. Really hard on everyone when he fell down. The fabric of my family was really torn and stayed torn.

David Hirsch: How would you describe your relationship with your dad?

Andrew Ginsberg: Complicated. Very complicated. There was warmth there. He was loving at times, but he was also very strict and sometimes violent. very critical. He was a Harvard surgeon, and his father was a Harvard doctor. His brother was a Harvard doctor. So it was really. You were held to the highest standards. And I was a rebellious kid, and I kind of went against that. he didn’t take to it well. He was very, at times ashamed of me. I was a good tennis player, so that made him proud. But I was a terrible student, so that he didn’t care for.

David Hirsch: So when you think about your dad, I’m wondering if there’s an important lesson or a couple takeaways that come to mind.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, the biggest takeaway is to enjoy every day, because my father was a very accomplished man. Chief of surgery, Harvard, lieutenant commander in the Navy. But he was never happy. One day of his life, as I knew him, he was always, holding on to this rage and stress and anger, and that was probably why I rebelled. I saw this guy with all this achievement who’s not happy. I kind of. I’d rather be happy. And as a kid, I didn’t care about all his accolades. I just wanted a father who was happy and loving. And at times, he was loving. I never saw him happy, really.

David Hirsch: That’s pretty heavy. We could probably take a deep dive for an entire podcast just about that, but, that’s not today. but thank you for being open and transparent about that.

Your father’s dad was a trained Harvard surgeon. Did you get to know him at all

I’m thinking about other father influencers. Your grandfathers, to start. And you mentioned that your dad’s dad was also a trained Harvard surgeon. Did you get to know him at all when you were a young guy?

Andrew Ginsberg: I did. I did. He was sharp as a tack till his old age. He was reading medical magazines. He was an incredible guy. His parents came over from Russia, very poor, had a grocery store. He worked at the grocery store before and after school. Got a full scholarship to Harvard, got a full scholarship to Harvard Medical School, and just worked really hard his entire life. And he instilled that work ethic, in his kids. He was an impressive guy. very warm grandfather. But I believe he was extremely strict with his kids, too, the way my father was. Because my dad would always say, if I ever did that one, my father, he would have, you know, so there was a lot of that. He definitely. My father definitely respected, his father a, great deal.

David Hirsch: Yeah. Well, thanks for sharing. How about your maternal grandfather? Do you know him at all?

Andrew Ginsberg: My maternal grandfather? Yeah, I did. he was an Incredible businessman. He never went to college, but he created a textile company that was super successful. And he has patents for all these different, fabrics. there are New Balance sneakers and stealth bombers. brilliant mind, brilliant business mind. So he was super creative and a self made man.

David Hirsch: Yeah, well, it sounds like you come from some pretty good stock then.

Andrew Ginsberg: Absolutely, absolutely. People who know how to get things done.

David Hirsch: Any other men that played an influential role in your life?

Andrew Ginsberg: yeah, I had a coach named Mark Harrison, tennis coach, who when I was a junior and I really, idolized him. He was this, top Australian player on the ATP Tour back when he, in his playing days. And I just wanted to make him proud and get as good as I could at tennis. And I got pretty good. And that’s, I actually played in college. That’s kind of how I got into Boston University, to be on the tennis team. So he was, he was a huge father figure as well.

David Hirsch: Anybody else?

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah. In college I started stand up comedy. And I met this legend at my first open mic named Teddy Bergeron. And Teddy was, the first comic to get the couch on the Tonight Show. The most talented comic that I’d seen up to that point. And, he took me under his wing and he said, you got something, kid, I could work with you. And my best friend in College became this 51 year old former legendary comic. He had major problems with alcohol in his career and that kind of destroyed his career. But I met him after the fact and he was, he was, sober and trying to get his life back together and he befriended me and mentored me. He was a very special guy and definitely a father figure.

David Hirsch: Did I remember that you opened for him for quite a few years?

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, he would take me all over Boston with this kid and he’d give me jokes, say this, they’ll love this. And you know, you got to put yourself beneath the audience. If you punch up, you know, they’ll love you. So he gave me all these lessons. I had all these tape recorded sessions with these on these, you know, cassette tapes. And he would let me open for him. I’d do 10 minutes here, 15 minutes there. It was very special.

David Hirsch: Did you actually develop your own material?

Andrew Ginsberg: I did. He taught me how to write. He

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Andrew Ginsberg: was such a good joke writer. And I would just, I learned by watching him. I would just watch this master. I think Boston, Globe once called him a magician with a microphone. And there was no one like Teddy. He had it all. I mean, just an absolute G. And the fact that he took his time to work with me was extremely generous.

David Hirsch: Is he still alive?

Andrew Ginsberg: Teddy, died, a couple years ago.

David Hirsch: Sorry to hear that.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, he had a lot of health problems from his battle with alcohol.

David Hirsch: Yeah. Well, thanks for sharing. Sounds like a very influential person and obviously, had a big impact on your life as well.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, Teddy was a wonderful person.

You’re a personal trainer and a stand up comedian

David Hirsch: So there’s two things I remember about your career. one that, ah, you’re a personal trainer for a long time and that you’ve been a stand up comedian for 25 plus years. And I’m wondering, how do those overlap or how do they intersect?

Andrew Ginsberg: quite nicely. Personal training is done in the morning and early afternoon and stand up comedy is at night. It didn’t leave a lot of room for sleep, but that’s what I still believe. That’s what caffeine is for. And I drink a lot, I still drink a lot of coffee. but I enjoy both of those things. And one of the perks about being a trainer trainer is, number one, you can keep, your own schedule. you don’t have a boss, which is wonderful for rebellious comics. And number two is you have a built in audience. If I train eight clients or seven clients, I have seven audiences to bounce jokes off of, unknowingly, hopefully.

David Hirsch: One of the things I picked up on is that you have, four comedy albums on itunes and this new album called Eat the Yolk, which debuted in the top 10 on, the itunes comedy chart. And you’ve had appearances. This is like, really impressive. On the View, Saturday Night Live, the Sopranos, All My Children, as the World Turns, the Guiding Light, One Life to Live. You’ve been heard on, you know, Sirius xm, Laugh Attack, and, you know, it sounds like you’ve had this extraordinary career. when you think back on it, what were the highlights for you?

Andrew Ginsberg: All My Children was a lot of fun because it was, it was. You’d go in, it was so fast. Everyone’s very friendly. I love the. I was a cop. Officer Bernstein. The only, only Jew in Pine Valley. Pine Valley Police Department. And I was friends with all the other cops and I lived around the corner. It was on the Upper west side. It was just a very fun time.

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David Hirsch: Okay. I’m sort of curious to know, how did you and Rachel meet?

Andrew Ginsberg: Oh, it’s. It’s a good story, I think. I used to work out at New York sports club on 73rd street between Central park west and Columbus. And she lived next door to the New York Sports Club where I worked at and every day I’d walk by and I’d see this doorman. I’d be like, hey, man. You know, I was always friendly. And one day I was leaving the gym, he ran after me. He’s like, hey, what’s your name? I said, andrew. He goes, the reason I ask is because there’s a woman in this building who saw you the other day and she wanted to meet you. Can I give her your name? I said, yeah, I’ll give you my name and, and my number. And she, texted me a few days later. she said, it’s Rachel, friend of Juan the doorman. Would you like to, would you like to, you know, go out? And I said, I would love to, and went for a drink. And, a year later we were married. And now we have three kids. We’ve been married 10 years. So thank you, Juan the doorman.

David Hirsch: Did she ask you out or did you ask her out?

Andrew Ginsberg: I asked her out. And I was about to correct myself because that would have been a very bold move. And I said, I would love to go, I would love to get a drink, some. I asked her out. so sorry, Rachel, when you listen, I remember the truth.

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David Hirsch: As I mentioned previously, our primary audience for the Special Fathers Network Data dad podcast are dads raising children with special needs and disabilities. Do you or Rachel have any connection directly, indirectly to the special needs or disability community?

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, I have a client who, has a son who’s autistic and I’ve spoken to her about it, him before and he sounds like a wonderful, creative, super good looking kid. And I have had conversations with her about that and she’s an incredible mother. I’m just very impressed with any parent, but a parent with a special needs kid who takes it on and, and welcomes it and just thrives. It’s a beautiful thing.

You’ve written a number of fitness and humor books

David Hirsch: So you’ve written a number of books, the first of which back in 2017 is a book entitled Pumping

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David Hirsch: how to Build Muscle, Lose Weight and have the Last Laugh. The title itself is very Clever. What inspired the blend of fitness and humor in this book?

Andrew Ginsberg: Well, I was a comedian and a bodybuilder and I started writing this blog just making fun of all the the garbage out there and the silliness, the diets that people try, the fads, the different workouts. And I just saw so much misinformation online. I was already doing comedy about the races, like the half marathon. so today was the half marathon. Did you see that? I love the half marathon. What else can you do halfway and still feel like a winner? And I wrote this blog and this blog started getting pretty popular and the woman who was helping me, with my comedy albums, Andrea Della Dernier, said, you should write a book. This is really funny stuff. so I just, I had all these blog entries and you know, I had so much there already and I built on that and I really enjoyed it because bodybuilding and fitness, I really know, I know that I can comment on that and I also like to write. So it was a perfect mix. It was really nice. one of my clients was Frank Bruni, the New York Times op ed writer. And he loved the book. He wrote something nice about it and that was huge, to come from such an accomplished writer. It was nice that people enjoyed the book and thought it had merit.

David Hirsch: That’s awesome.

Comedy is often about chaos and fitness is about discipline

Was there a specific moment in your life where humor became your primary coping mechanism?

Andrew Ginsberg: When I was Ah, about 12, 13 years old, I was having a horrible time at home. I had a very abusive home. there was violence, there was verbal. And I discovered George Carlin. And I would just sit in the den and listen to George Carlin albums and laugh and he just made me feel so good. I’m like, I would just be howling at 10:30 when everyone else was asleep watching George Carlin. And it just felt so good to laugh because there wasn’t a lot of laughter in my house. It was very uptight and stressful. You could feel it in the air. And here was this outlet of just pure humor and joy. So George Carlin really was ah, a big help in my childhood.

David Hirsch: So I think about fitness often being about discipline and comedy being about chaos. How do these two worlds intersect for you?

Andrew Ginsberg: They both take a lot of discipline. Jerry Seinfeld once said, you know, you have to get up every night. If you do one set a week, it’s like doing one push up. you’re going to get absolutely nothing out of it. so you really have to work at both of Those things to get good body. I like fitness because it’s so honest. Everyone knows what you’re eating and what you’re lifting because it’s appearance. You either look like you’re extremely fit. I know you did that very long bike ride. And as soon as I heard that, I’m like, oh, my God, this guy’s an elite athlete. And fitness, it’s honest. Everyone knows the score. Comedy, Everyone knows the score. They’re either laughing or they’re not. There’s not one person in the room doesn’t know if. If you’re doing well or you’re doing poorly. Same thing with fitness. We can all tell your fitness level right away. We wear both on our sleeve.

David Hirsch: Great. Thank you for the insight.

Critter Caravan is about animals escaping from children’s birthday parties

So let’s, switch gears and talk about, the first of your two children’s books, Critter Caravan, that came out, in April 2025. That feels like a shift. What sparked the idea for a children’s book?

Andrew Ginsberg: My son Ben turned 5 and he hired this company called Curious Creatures. And. And these are the companies that deliver little animals to your house. And the guy puts them, you know, you got a little baby crocodile, a chinchilla, a snake, a rabbit. You have all these animals. He brings them over. The kids love it. They freak out when the snake comes out. They touch the tap the baby crocodile on the head. They put the chinchilla on the birthday boy’s head. And we were talking about the party afterwards, like, God, that was such a great party. And I’m like, yeah, but it sucks for the animals. So. So Critter Caravan is about animals that have to go to, you know, their fourth birthday party of the afternoon. They’re complaining in the back of the van. They’re like, if I have to go to another party, you know, I’m gonna, you know, never come out of my shell. And, they plan their escape. So they escape from the hell that is children’s birthday parties.

David Hirsch: So how does your, comedic background influence your storytelling in this book?

Andrew Ginsberg: It’s all dialogue. it’s all dialogue. it’s just the animals complaining. So I know how to write funny and I know how to keep a script moving. So it was really easy. I just put, you know, went into the different characters, and, you know, you read it out loud and make sure there’s not extra fat on it and punch up the jokes. It’s just fun. It’s funny. It’s a fun little read.

Your new book is titled the Colors of my sky. What does this mean to you

David Hirsch: the new book, which is just out, is titled the Colors of my sky. The title feels more introspective. What does this mean to you?

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, this book I’m really excited about. the sky

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Andrew Ginsberg: is such a metaphor for so many different things and it can be so many different colors. And when I go to schools, I always, the first thing I ask the kids is, what color is the sky? And they all scream out blue. And it’s like, well, can it be any other color? Pink. How about any other color? Black, gray, green, yellow, orange, red. And they start opening their eyes to that. and the book is really, a protest against racism and it pushes forth kindness and diversity. So I think there’s a really strong message in a very short book. I wrote it, specifically to get into classrooms because I love being in front of kids and reading to them and talking is my favorite thing in the world. I love being in front of kids. And I said, how can I get in front of kids? Oh, get into the schools. So it’s going to be a great ride. And this book, I think, so far it’s been really well received.

David Hirsch: That’s awesome.

So, playing off the colors theme, what colors define your life right now

So, playing off the colors theme, what colors define your life right now? And how have they changed over time?

Andrew Ginsberg: blue with sunshine when I was a child, dark gray with maybe a tornado cloud and horrible, winds. But in my past, eight years as a dad, just bluer and bluer skies with a brighter and brighter sun. And I always say to my kids, daddy’s the luckiest man in the world. And I believe that. I tell them that every day when I leave the house, daddy’s the luckiest man in the world.

David Hirsch: What a great message for your kids to hear.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah, and I believe it. And they know I believe it.

David Hirsch: I love it. I hope it’s a great success for you. Thank you.

You performed Self Worthless once after you stopped doing stand up comedy

So let’s go back in time a little bit and talk about this one, man show entitled Self Worthless.

Andrew Ginsberg: You performed it once.

David Hirsch: When? Where is this not a biographical performance? What is it?

Andrew Ginsberg: yeah, I performed it once after I decided to stop doing stand up comedy. After 25 years. I was, content not doing stand up. And then I went to see my friend Lisa Lampanelli do her solo show called Irrelevant. And it was brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant. I emailed her as soon as I got home from the show. I went to see it. I said, oh, my goodness, I figured it out. My whole life is just me trying to win my father’s approval. That’s it. My whole life I’ve been chasing that approval. I never got it. I’LL never get it. But that’s it. Everything I’ve done up to this point, that would be my show. She’s like, I’ll help you with it. I said, really? She’s like, yeah. And we started meeting every week, and she gave me a timeline. It was the most brilliant, plan as to how we were gonna write this. We compiled stories, we filtered through them, we taped every session, and then I transcribed it on Rev. And we put together this beautiful, powerful. It couldn’t have been more deep to the depth of this show. Way I’ve never done anything deeper than a kiddie pool. This thing was, like, the deepest part of the ocean where they found the Titanic. And it was all about my relationship with my father, basically, me fighting for my father’s approval and now having kids and making sure they don’t need to fight for my approval because they know they already have it. And I got a standing ovation at the end, and it’s the only standing ovation I’ve ever received in my life and probably will be the only one I ever receive forever. So that was a special moment. I will do it again. but that was a very healing, special moment for me because I finally did something I was proud of on a stage.

David Hirsch: That’s pretty powerful.

There’s somebody’s approval that we all have wanted, and probably parents

What did you want people to think as they were driving home after seeing your show?

Andrew Ginsberg: that we all doubt ourselves and that we all. There’s somebody’s approval that we all have wanted, and probably especially parents. Everyone wanted a mother’s or father’s approval, and hopefully most of them got it, but a lot of people didn’t. A lot of people feel like they failed in the eyes of their parents and knowing that it’s okay, you’re not alone. And also, their approval should be there the day you’re born.

David Hirsch: Yep. That’s very powerful. Thank you.

What advice can you offer a younger dad about raising children

So I’m thinking about advice, based on your experience as a father and as a son. What advice can you offer a younger dad?

Andrew Ginsberg: I would say just be ready for a complete shift in your life where it’s no longer about you and it’s 100% about the children. And then to enjoy all the silliness, because everyone always would see me in the grocery store and be like, enjoy it. It goes so fast. And I would roll my eyes. And now, as my kids are getting older, I can’t echo that enough. It is so special. A, grandma I know told me that the most precious thing. Remember the voices, which is why videos are so good. Those little squealy Voices and the child’s laughter, which to me is the most special laughter there is. Which is why I like to be in front of kids more than adults. a child’s laughter is everything. It’s the greatest gift. So be

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Andrew Ginsberg: silly. Be silly with your kids and just enjoy it. Your sleep is not going to be great. You’ll definitely get worked up and frustrated. But there’s a purpose like no other.

David Hirsch: I love it.

Andrew Ginsberg: It really is the greatest purpose.

David Hirsch: regarding the time and how fast it goes, the statement that comes to mind is that some, of the days are long, but the years seem to click by really fast.

Andrew Ginsberg: Absolutely.

Andrew Ginsburg says dreams change when you become a dad

David Hirsch: Is there anything else you’d like to say before we wrap up?

Andrew Ginsberg: Reading to my kids became my favorite thing in the world. We book party every night from 7 to 8 o’. Clock. I do two new books with each of my kids every night. And little things like that that you would never foresee as being, the thing you enjoy most in life pop up. One of the things I’ve been working on is dreams change. And I’m going to present that to the schools. Your dream will change multiple times in your life. At first it was being a stand, then it was being a bodybuilder. Then it was being a children’s author. Now it’s just being a dad. It’s really. I’m, living my dream every day with my kids. So, you know the kid that says, I want to be a baseball player? Today you do. Today you do. Yeah. Dreams will change and it’s nice to welcome that.

David Hirsch: Yeah. Well, as it relates to that, I think what we need to do is allow our kids to have the dreams and let them realize, you know, when they’re changing as opposed to snuffing that creativity or those desires out. Right. Like, oh, you’re never going to make it. No. Nobody makes it to the big leagues or to the NBA or fill in the blank. So, any. Very, very, very powerful. Thank you.

Andrew Ginsberg: Yeah.

David Hirsch: If somebody wants to contact you, what’s the best way to do so?

Andrew Ginsberg: You can email me@, ah, ginsburgnycmail.com that’s Ginsburg with a U like the judge and ginsburgnycmail.Com and yeah, I’d love to hear from anybody. I really enjoy being a dad and anything related to it.

David Hirsch: Well, be sure to include that and maybe your website as well as, links to the various books that we’ve discussed, in the show notes.

Andrew Ginsberg: Thank you, Andrea.

David Hirsch: Thank you for your time and many insights as A reminder, the Special Fathers Network is a mentoring program for fathers raising children with special needs. If you’d like to be a mentor father or are, ah, seeking advice from a mentor father with a similar situation to your own, Please go to 21stCenturyDads.org Thank you for listening to the latest episode of the Special Fathers Network Data Podcast. I hope you enjoyed the conversation as much as I did. As you probably know, the 21st Century Dads foundation is a 501c3 not for profit organization, which means we need your help to keep our content free to all concern. Would you please consider making a tax collectible contribution? I would really appreciate your support, Andrew. Thanks again.

Andrew Ginsberg: Thank you so much for having me on. thank you, dad to the dad. you’re not on your own. We walk this road together, hard and home.

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